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02.04.2021 um 23:22:17
 
Hi,
I am Turkish and my husband is Italian. Currently we are living in Italy and we will be moving in Berlin in the next couple of months as we both got job offer there.
We are a bit confused with all visa and permit process unentschlossen
Some say as spouse of an EU citizen I have freedom of movement and I can take up any employment in Germany right away after arrival as long as also my husband is moving with me in Germany.
Some other say I need to apply for residence card for family reunion in Germany after arrival and until it is issued I am not allowed to work.
And some others say I need get a work visa otherwise there is no way for me start working right after arrival.

Has anyone had the similar experience or have any knowledge?

Thanks.
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Antwort #1 - 02.04.2021 um 23:43:22
 
If your husband is/will be working in Germany, you definitely have the the right of free movement with him.
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Some say as spouse of an EU citizen I have freedom of movement and I can take up any employment in Germany right away after arrival as long as also my husband is moving with me in Germany.

Is correct.

pescegatto schrieb am 02.04.2021 um 23:22:17:
Some other say I need to apply for residence card for family reunion in Germany after arrival and until it is issued I am not allowed to work.
And some others say I need get a work visa otherwise there is no way for me start working right after arrival.

These others are mistaken.
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Antwort #2 - 02.04.2021 um 23:43:50
 
pescegatto schrieb am 02.04.2021 um 23:22:17:
Some say as spouse of an EU citizen I have freedom of movement and I can take up any employment in Germany right away after arrival as long as also my husband is moving with me in Germany.

That's correct. However in practice, you need to show your employer some kind of proof that you are allowed to work without restrictions. Therefore make sure, that once you have provided the local foreigners office (Ausländerbehörde) with all necessary information in oder to receive a residence card, a written confirmation is issued to you stating that you are allowed to seek employment without any restrictions (Erwerbstätigkeit erlaubt).
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Ausländerbehörden sind keine nachgeordneten Stellen des Auswärtigen Amts. Auf ihre Entscheidungen kann das Auswärtige Amt keinen Einfluss nehmen. - Bundesministerium des Innern, für Bau und Heimat.

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Antwort #3 - 03.04.2021 um 12:23:07
 
Thanks.
Therefore, this means that I can't start working until I receive written confirmation/proof that states I am allowed to work?

Curiosity, if the right of free movement comes from marriage why one needs another document to certify it and just marriage certificate is not enough?
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Antwort #4 - 03.04.2021 um 12:32:47
 
pescegatto schrieb am 03.04.2021 um 12:23:07:
Therefore, this means that I can't start working until I receive written confirmation/proof that states I am allowed to work?

Legally you are allowed to work without any proof. The written confirmation just makes it easier as many employers are not familiar with Freedom of Movement for third country nationals and therefore require some official documentation. Consult your future employer for further details.

pescegatto schrieb am 03.04.2021 um 12:23:07:
Curiosity, if the right of free movement comes from marriage why one needs another document to certify it and just marriage certificate is not enough?

A marriage certificate is a mere proof of marriage to a certain person. It does not provide further information about your entitlement to Freedom of Movment, whereas a residence card is a proof of an existing right to reside for the time of issurence.
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Antwort #5 - 03.04.2021 um 18:20:45
 
pescegatto schrieb am 03.04.2021 um 12:23:07:
Therefore, this means that I can't start working until I receive written confirmation/proof that states I am allowed to work?


You can start work immediately.  The challange is, if your employer is happy with an informal approval of your status. Talk to your employer about the proof he woul like accept until you have the residence card in your hand. Offer him a certified copy of the marrige certificate + copy Passport of you and your husband + copy of your registration in the resident register (Meldebescheinigung) it includes the citizenship of you and your husband.
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